New clans

Rotem · May 20, 2015, 01:12:57 PM

It's been awhile now since I announced my intentions to change clans, it's all been but an idea and as time passed I came up with a more solid plan.

First I'm going to state out the simple fact this clan system is a failure and no amount of new HDEs or HAs are going to change it, it's always going to be a full failure that you can't argue with.

Many people tried to tell me the clans are fine and my change isn't required, I waited until all their statements are proved wrong and as it turns out, they did prove wrong. It was mainly Aurors claiming I will kill clans and my ideas are complete bullshit, it was pretty brutal, especially since I predicted every bit of drama that happened afterwards and knew that I hate this sort of drama, TWC shouldn't bully the players just because clans dictate it.

Every action bloodlust has done in name of their clan war would've been avoided, this clan system feasts off sparks of drama and in between sparks there's complete silence. Right now, it's dead and this temporary death could not have been avoided no matter what action anyone would've taken, even if bloodlust lost the battle the clans would've died proving the system itself is inefficient. I will not accept any reply telling me that this system is not a failure, the very basic concept that relies on players to bring their own entertainment belongs in a roleplay game and TWC isn't really doing much roleplay.

Instead of how things are doing, I want to replace the drama with progression, let's take the common MMO, World of Warcraft.
It has two factions, the hoard and the alliance. Those two would be our new clans. The leader positions HA and HDE will disappear from existence, we won't rely on players anymore.

Instead, joining clans will be open to everyone and completely unbiased. This opens up unique clan spells as well as a whole set of rewards that weren't possible due to how biased clans were with human leaders.

A new stat will be added per player, "Reputation" this would be somewhat similar to Mass Effect Paragon/Renegade where your actions in quests or casual actions would effect what side you're on. We would also make use of the quest system for light/dark sided quests.

People would be given a rank and we'd perhaps even have a memberlist leaderboard based on their reputation, after all, if you've done many quests to save the princess from the big bad gorilla word would spread and you'd be a famous hero. Perhaps this rank would be used to unlock certain spells/skills/abilities unique to a certain side.

It simply adds a layer of content, progression instead of the current drama-driven system. Instead of sucking pleasure out've bullying one another, you would seek achievement.

To battle inactivity ranks would decay over time. Much like celebrities if you haven't saved many kids people forget the good deeds you've made (or alternatively people have to be reminded how scary you are). In the new system the little guy that spams quests will rank higher than the old player who sits on their butts doing nothing but delivering orders.

Up to this point, I call it part A of the clan change. There's also a part B, in short: guilds.
Guilds would solve every little con that was mentioned by the community but because this game is small one would argue that it's something a little too big.

Right now the way I view guilds is 5-man sized groups. There would be a lot of minor guilds associating themselves with one faction and every faction would have 1 major guild. The minor guild within each faction would battle to gain fame and prove themselves in order to be the leading guild. So in addition to clan/faction wars, you'd get inner-faction guild wars.

Granted this is very ambitious and is going to take time, it'll take a lot of time until part B is added and because part B also depends on active players it might also not be used much. I like to take things one at a time which is why right now my focus is purely on part A.

Generally now that quests are done it shouldn't really take much effort to complete part A but before I begin tackling this issue, you the community deserve a chance to give proper feedback in a suggestion post which is probably better than bashing and mocking my OOC statements. So now, converse! This is your chance to let your opinion be known, despite popular belief I do listen to feedback. Feedback is how this entire idea was born. I believe part A was discuessed by me and Lucifer then by me and Murra and overtime that's what I came up with. Part B is also a result of feedback and me watching bloodlusts and dragons go at it. HQ vault was purely designed to be HQ used by minor guilds while major guilds will most likely get another fancier HQ.

Rotem · May 22, 2015, 12:10:23 AM

As I started working on it I realized that I don't really want to name the clans aurors or DEs, I feel as if those clans belong to an entirely different era. We don't have Voldemort. We're not exactly following a story where Harry Potter was born. It was always more about the great stories of wizards who once upon a time lived in the HP universe but I highly doubt Voldemort and his Deatheater were the only dark ones to ever become a threat, like in all magical universes, where's there is power, there's a straggle to hold that power.

So when I rebuild the new clans, I want to name them something new and fresh as a symbol for a new era, new clans. Something original to TWC, to us. In this magical universe, we are the people who make choices that shape our little world, what would you name your group of wizards in this power straggle?

This isn't a rhetorical question, it's a contest! Think of a name for the new clans, I'm sure the lot of you would love the bragging rights for coming up with the name, you'll probably go on and on about it for years to come but for those of you that bragging isn't enough, there'd be a reward in-game as well.

P.S. Advertise this pls.

Skystone · May 22, 2015, 10:21:50 AM

I don't have a name for the two clans, but I do have an idea as to how the two clans could be different.

I was thinking we could have one clan be for magic, and the other clan be against/restricting magic.

It would make things interesting as there would be an actual purpose as to why you're fighting, and it wouldn't have to be just about killing/protecting others.

Ben · May 22, 2015, 11:25:19 AM

What would the clan who are against magic fight with? Surely not magic if they're so against it?

Rotem · May 22, 2015, 07:23:25 PM

Quote from: Ben on May 22, 2015, 11:25:19 AM
What would the clan who are against magic fight with? Surely not magic if they're so against it?

The end justifies the means, if it means we end all magic, we will use magic, we will save the blind with the light of our magic, we shall purify the world.

(Logic doesn't work with nutjobs.)

But yea, the names and story behind it is definitely sort of roleplay. I might just name both sides 'Dark' and 'Light' or good and evil or w/e and allow people to define their own stories with guilds.

Traxicous · May 22, 2015, 07:36:29 PM

If we end up going for protect/kill thing, maybe Aurors could be something like "Sentinels". A sentinel is someone who protects or guards someone/something. I have no idea about the DE's but this is just an idea... yeah. Tell me yay or nay. Whats wrong with it, whats good about it. Btw this came off the top of my head so not much thought put in it

Zachie · May 23, 2015, 04:03:19 AM

Quote from: Traxicous on May 22, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
If we end up going for protect/kill thing, maybe Aurors could be something like "Sentinels". A sentinel is someone who protects or guards someone/something. I have no idea about the DE's but this is just an idea... yeah. Tell me yay or nay. Whats wrong with it, whats good about it. Btw this came off the top of my head so not much thought put in it

There isn't going to be any more Aurors or DEs, two completely new clans.

Traxicous · May 23, 2015, 01:17:00 PM

Well then theres a name for a good/protecting clan

Skystone · May 23, 2015, 09:42:48 PM

Quote from: Ben on May 22, 2015, 11:25:19 AM
What would the clan who are against magic fight with? Surely not magic if they're so against it?

Why does Team Plasma use Pokemon when they're against the enslavement of Pokemon?

matthewhagerman · May 25, 2015, 08:17:03 AM

It would be cool if the clans were bloodlusts and dragons seeing how it has such a deep history in the game anyway. It would lead to a cool dynamic where both sides think they are the good and view the other as evil. I could see why people may think this is a bad idea due to all the drama caused because of both clans but I think it could work.

Skystone · May 25, 2015, 08:28:37 AM

Quote from: matthewhagerman on May 25, 2015, 08:17:03 AM
It would be cool if the clans were bloodlusts and dragons seeing how it has such a deep history in the game anyway. It would lead to a cool dynamic where both sides think they are the good and view the other as evil. I could see why people may think this is a bad idea due to all the drama caused because of both clans but I think it could work.

LOL, that would be kind of funny to see Bloodlusts and Dragons incorporated into the game, but would it make sense? We would need to have more backstory and decisions if that was ever going to happen.

matthewhagerman · May 25, 2015, 08:32:25 AM

Another idea I had was to name the clans after types of old weapons like aspis (Meaning shield in greek ) Being the good defending the school. And Xiphos (meaning sword in greek) being the evil and attacking it.

Sara · May 25, 2015, 01:17:14 PM

Being a geek I randomly thought of Bionis and Mechonis. But what about Society of the Dragons and Spears of the Stars?

Vengeful Kyo · May 26, 2015, 07:16:12 AM

The description everyone is giving sounds pretty much like the Templars and The Circle in Dragon Age. While one side believed magic was good the others wanted it abolished. Incorporating Dragons and Bloodlust into the game isn't such a bad idea with that all being said

Harlekin · May 27, 2015, 09:49:43 AM

Opinion from an ex-player,
1st
Yeah we can definitely say that there is short period of drama and long period of silence in current situation on TWC, and in last war between Dragons and Bloodlusts you must admit that wasnt fully fair battle(some of you know what im talking about and i wont talk about that here), if it was, that would be loong long drama good epic fight i guess, as a bloodlust i know epilogue would be the same but i didnt want this sooo approach of someone here must be different Rotem, it must be neutral, you are, we can freely say God here in this game so you must understand that there is no place for you to be in that "games" of game, actually that would be legit if there is other Gods like in Greek mythology Gods that will help oher side. By continuing like that you can make changes and changes and nothing will happen.
2nd
Name of clans, hmmm its formality I think if there would be good and bad side definitely just a formality but someone mentioned dragons and bloodlusts ooo definitely im for that, both clans with history, history of their members, both clans thinks that other is bad, merged stories, betrayals, spies...just to find goals for both of them and that is it, maybe even that is not important, taking glory and power will be enough but i guess its just wish from few of us, that is not your concept...
sooo my answer on your question about names is question "is that important?"
PS there is no irony in any part of this letter just in case some of you find some... lav ya all and cya maybe in month or two... i guess you will do great job Rotem.