Hogwarts,Houses...Sense?o.O

[Harlekin]

Well, since i started to play this game (almost year ago) i realized this community is odd in its own way and sooo different  from my imagination what one Harry Potter based game should look like...i ask myslef and you guys what is point of Houses and different Robes what is actually point of Hogwarts itself, there you can only learn spells (you will use like MAX 10 of them), and nothing but nothing else, what is point of winning house cup? 10% or 15% drop rate(idk exactly how much), there are 6 players in game who farm actually (no metter he is in winner house or not) and 2 of them are not active...absurd...lets make some point...give to house members reason to compete like more prizes, more benefits for winner house, more ways to compete why no1 want to play quidditch, lets play quidditch and make some good prizes for qudditch cup winners...invite sorting hat (make some test on which we will answer and hat will sort us by our answers) instead of letting us to choose.That was 1st thing i dislike...i was like WTF WHERE IS FUC**** SORTING HAT...and you will make balance...maybe there is no need for test just drop us in one of the houses...if not i will repeat once again no point in Sorting us (actually sorting ourselves) in Houses,not just sorting but no point in existence of the houses, House Cup and Hogwarts itself (if you do not count classes)...
I hope you recognize this as constructive criticism, and I'm here if you need some help to solve and make this place better.
Tnx

[Zachary Lyons]

We tried to introduce extra incentives for people to want house points and win the house cup but the same problem occurred, only two people were interested and therefore no one else tried. I don't think TWC's problem is content anymore, I think the community have habits and expectations of what TWC should be but when new things get added, people have the complete opposite reaction.

[Harlekin]

Yeah ofc there will be haters idk why but yeah its our community i guees...i really appreciate everything you guys doing here, adding new bosses, new creatures, new chambers, tasks, enchanting systems, titles, new vaults,duel competition system (i dont participate atm in this one but i have my reasons, maybe i will start soon idk)...really that is all great and perfect for me for us who like to duel,to fight to farm to....idk to play this game active. But sadly in this game there are lots of AKF players just sitting there and waiting for some classes to receive 68th spell point or maybe some event like music chairs.Probelm and point is there is no excitement for that type of players this game is pretty much based on fighting (i will repeat, I like that) but as i said we have lots of players who dont want to do that...soo we must figure out what to add to be interesting and exciting for them (not just for them maybe that will be exciting also for us) maybe there is not such a thing idk...but i guess we should try and start by giving the Houses sense and figure out what will make sense of their existence...House Cup with more benefits for Winner House, with more Prizes for Winner House and their members will make sense of their existence and will be reason for more activity (I believe), and how we will get that benefits and prizes? By inventing some competition system, i mentioned Quidditch as one part of that system, Some interesting GMs events can be part of that system, Duel system where best fighters of each House will represent their Houses and fight for them, can be part of that system ,Classes and points from classes will be part of that system...idk what else but i believe we can do it by giving some balance to game and between Houses, new sorting to make them equal ("sorting hat"), good stimulus ( by adding more benefits and prizes) and lots of fun and excitement (by adding competition system with a lot of different components) will do thing...

[Rotem]

I don't want to ignore you so I'll say the ugly truth, I can't do anything with what's written in this topic.

Also, in the future, I recommend using paragraphs to organize your text, just throwing a giant paragraph like this is going to be hard to read. Also try to focus on one thing at a time, if you include too many points it's just hard to focus on any one ting, we lose ourselves.

Let's split what this suggestion looks like to me:

• Lack of purpose for spells.
• Lack of purpose for non pvp players
• Lack of sorting hat
• No sense whatsoever in having 4 houses as there is no competition

While I agree with your points, you're tackling big whales there while offering 1 solution: adding competition to houses via a duel system, allow me to remind you that after I've spent so much hours adding competitive matchmaking, I am not going to do ANYTHING code based for dueling between houses, it'd have to be sponsored by a GM and as I've stated before, I will not be forcing any of them to do it, in fact I see competition between houses as pointless as they are unbalanced.
(P.S. the irony of you offering a duel event for this problem when you mention the need for something other than pvp)

We can't do sorting hats because people will hate being forced into one house or complain it hasn't been like this in the past but as long as people are allowed to choose their house they will be unbalanced. I can't really think of a way to balance it out, there's really little I can do.

Now let's talk Quidditch, our system sucks, it's not fun, it's a torture. While Alexender/Dion did come up with a new quidditch I feel it's too untested and incomplete and I won't finish his job.
For anyone thinking otherwise, I've held that event twice a week, sometimes even more for over a year, I know it inside out and the precise player reaction to it and the effort it takes to hold it.

And next up, let's talk about non pvp players: I saw Chris, Tobias, Sara, Ben, Zach, my entire staff who are really not going out and pvp-ing often go in CoS and die countless to Basilisk due to the quest system, I've seen so many players do quests even though they normally wouldn't. PvP is a layer in this game, an important one, it's not however everything anymore, now you can quest, much like in WoW it has many activities you can take: questing, pvp, crafting/enchanting and of course grinding.
I even went ahead and made it easier to level via monsters to discourage book leveling but it doesn't seem very popular.

The truth is, people like them aren't into competition, they're not going to be joining in on it, they've been here forever and seen many houses win and lose they just don't care anymore. Personally, I like having house cup drop rate bonus when I'm farming which happens maybe once in a month and then I'm back to not caring because honestly me and the people who sit there near books are logging in for social reasons and chances are a sorting hat, Quidditch or anything I could do is not going to change how they behaved for months/years and will continue to behave as this is their personal preference and quite honestly I'm a competitive person and I can't understand their mindframe and add content they like, I am just not coming up with ideas fit for them and they normally avoid suggestion board.

By the way, it's 25% gold, exp and drop rate and it's actually really worth it, people don't realize it though.

[Harlekin]

Yeah thanks for answer and sorry because english is not my mature language but i cant do anything about that, no? And yes sorry for not using paragraphs i will try to use them next time if there would be next time ofc.

Lack of purpose for spells.

You got it wrong i was talking that learning spells and classes are ONLY things why there is Hogwarts (School of Witchcraft and Wizardry).Im fine with spells.

(P.S. the irony of you offering a duel event for this problem when you mention the need for something other than pvp)

That wasnt main idea just part of puzzle without whom we wont have image...I was talking about SYSTEM which will include PvP besides other things, in that SYSTEM we must have place for BOTH those who likes PvP and those who dont like PvP.

We can't do sorting hats...

Yeah i know Harry was asked about his opinion...but we must sacrifice something in order to progress...With some questions i mentioned we can close their mouth.

Now let's talk Quidditch, our system sucks...

I didnt know that sorry...actually that was one example what would be part of SYSTEM im talking about.

By the way, it's 25% gold, exp and drop rate and it's actually really worth it, people don't realize it though.

25% of drop rate is good for me and you, for those who farm, for week or more i havent saw anyone in wisp chamber we need prizes for those players who cant/dont want go there and kill all that wisps.

This somehow does not belong here but dont know where to put it just follow this line and you will find my idea...
New House Competition System that will include (Ordinary and some new Events ( For both Non-PvP and PVP players ), ordinary FFA(For PvP players), Classes (Mostly for Non-PvP players)) will make reason for adding more Prizes and Benefits for House Cup winner, Better Prizes and More Benefits for House who wins House Cup will make more sense of House Cup (Money rules the World, and only with "Money" you will make players active), House Cup are making sense of splitting us in different Houses and only then Hogwarts will have some point. IF NOT Hogwarts and that 4 Houses system (where we are divided in 4 different groups) is pointless thing with no reason.
And i was talking about that....that our community made Hogwarts pointless.

The truth is, people like them aren't into competition, they're not going to be joining in on it, they've been here forever and seen many houses win and lose they just don't care anymore. Personally, I like having house cup drop rate bonus when I'm farming which happens maybe once in a month and then I'm back to not caring because honestly me and the people who sit there near books are logging in for social reasons and chances are a sorting hat, Quidditch or anything I could do is not going to change how they behaved for months/years and will continue to behave as this is their personal preference and quite honestly I'm a competitive person and I can't understand their mindframe and add content they like, I am just not coming up with ideas fit for them and they normally avoid suggestion board.

Totaly agree and yeah im afraid this is unchangeable...at least i tried :PPP

PS. You said your ugly truth but im sure there is some things that can be done, if you cant invent Sorting Hat and whole new SYSTEM then ordinary FFAs and other Events ONLY for House Points will be feasible...

Tnx

[Skystone]

After reading what you guys had to say I thought up of a simple fix for some people that didn't really care what house they ended up in.
Right when someone makes a new character there could be two new selections other than the "gender" "house" selections.

There could be Male Random House and Female Random House.

This would randomize which house you enter as in TWC.

Idk, seems like a simple fix for that Sorting Hat idea.

[Zachie]

After reading what you guys had to say I thought up of a simple fix for some people that didn't really care what house they ended up in.
Right when someone makes a new character there could be two new selections other than the "gender" "house" selections.

There could be Male Random House and Female Random House.

This would randomize which house you enter as in TWC.

Idk, seems like a simple fix for that Sorting Hat idea.

We can't do sorting hats because people will hate being forced into one house or complain it hasn't been like this in the past but as long as people are allowed to choose their house they will be unbalanced. I can't really think of a way to balance it out, there's really little I can do.

[Skystone]

After reading what you guys had to say I thought up of a simple fix for some people that didn't really care what house they ended up in.
Right when someone makes a new character there could be two new selections other than the "gender" "house" selections.

There could be Male Random House and Female Random House.

This would randomize which house you enter as in TWC.

Idk, seems like a simple fix for that Sorting Hat idea.

We can't do sorting hats because people will hate being forced into one house or complain it hasn't been like this in the past but as long as people are allowed to choose their house they will be unbalanced. I can't really think of a way to balance it out, there's really little I can do.

Some people don't care, I say for those who don't care we give them the option of picking a random House. I feel you didn't understand what I just said.

[Massive]

even if you make it random players will find a way to get in the house's they wanted then the same problem will occur and personally don't see a fix for the house's.

25% of drop rate is good for me and you, for those who farm, for week or more i havent saw anyone in wisp chamber we need prizes for those players who cant/dont want go there and kill all that wisps.

the 25% drop rate is good okay I have been grinding the wisps and other monster worth grinding if the monsters i have actually seen lot of people in the wisp chamber doing the daily quest as do I.

My answer to PVP is that of course not everyone likes to PVP I do it for fun time to time, although I do wish there where mini-games that you could queue up for like CTF or something similar and the winners gets a ticket of sorts that they can eventually spend on an item given by an npc.

[Skystone]

even if you make it random players will find a way to get in the house's they wanted then the same problem will occur and personally don't see a fix for the house's.

Yeah, I agree with you Massive. Technically there really is no fix for a player's house, but it would be nice to have a "random house/sorting hat" option for new players who don't really care where they get sorted to.

[Vengeful Kyo]

If someone truly didn't care why wouldn't they just pick whatever? Or just close their eyes? Or use a random generator. There's no sense in taking time to add in something that can be done already.

[Skystone]

If someone truly didn't care why wouldn't they just pick whatever? Or just close their eyes? Or use a random generator. There's no sense in taking time to add in something that can be done already.

Cuz accessibility.

[Sergiy]

If someone truly didn't care why wouldn't they just pick whatever? Or just close their eyes? Or use a random generator. There's no sense in taking time to add in something that can be done already.

^ Solved that problem. I agree with this guy.

[Ezekiel Fenix]

Also if you randomized houses it would just force them to remake until they got what they wanted.

I say get rid of houses all together and just add another personal stat called 'Points' that you reset every month. Anyone that gets 100+ points or so gets the bonus everyone else doesn't. You're all so obsessed with houses that none of you seem to realize that for the most part common rooms are dead and other than house wars they never freaking get used. Like, why does Linda Loo get a bonus for just setting on her ass in some house, whilst Caden Catherby busted his ass for Gryffindor but still gets nothing? In theory, someome could just make four alts and cap them, and then just farm with whoever won the house cup, never having to worry about contribuiting, and I think it's stupid; people should be rewarded for their participation, not their ability to pick a winning horse.